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	<title>Comments on: Revelation doesn&#8217;t pay the bills</title>
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	<description>Tony Chung is a Vancouver-based creative communications consultant who develops and optimizes websites, produces multimedia and music, writes and illustrates technical documentation, and blogs the living daylight out of faith, family, pop culture, creativity, technology, art, and whatever picks his fancy at the moment.</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Chung</title>
		<link>http://tonychung.ca/2009/06/revelation-doesnt-pay-the-bills/comment-page-1/#comment-15229</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend, I&#039;m not sure you&#039;re even old enough to remember Wang Chung. Unless, you&#039;re one of them Heroes dudes who lives forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend, I&#8217;m not sure you&#8217;re even old enough to remember Wang Chung. Unless, you&#8217;re one of them Heroes dudes who lives forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Tiessen</title>
		<link>http://tonychung.ca/2009/06/revelation-doesnt-pay-the-bills/comment-page-1/#comment-15228</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Tiessen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you related to Wang Chung?</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Chung</title>
		<link>http://tonychung.ca/2009/06/revelation-doesnt-pay-the-bills/comment-page-1/#comment-12016</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Chung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reminding me that we&#039;re human, jay. You know, the toughest book I had to read was &quot;The Purpose Driven Life&quot; by Rick Warren, back in 2002.

Day 18 was especially tough for me. It fell in the middle of the discussion of growing within the Christian family. I was challenged with the question, &lt;em&gt;&quot;What could I do to connect with another believer at a deeper heart level?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s easier to recover from failure when we have a strong family of believers to help lift us up, and keep us accountable to the decisions we made. At the time, I hungered for accountability, and to find other men with whom I could share vulnerability. Even though I was committed to serving in church, leading worship, facilitating small groups, and generally serving the congregation, I didn&#039;t feel connected to anybody.

I found the purpose of some of the activities within these men&#039;s retreats is primarily to provide a common ground where guys can bond. Talking about the activity eventually leads to talking about ourselves, and we found connection during the retreats that we didn&#039;t have before.

But as U2 sang several years ago, &lt;em&gt;&quot;I Still Haven&#039;t Found What I&#039;m Looking For&quot;&lt;/em&gt;—only now I&#039;m just a little bit closer.
.-= Tony Chung&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tonychung.ca/2009/07/travel-planning-for-family-fun-and-finanace/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Travel planning for family fun and finanace&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reminding me that we&#8217;re human, jay. You know, the toughest book I had to read was &#8220;The Purpose Driven Life&#8221; by Rick Warren, back in 2002.</p>
<p>Day 18 was especially tough for me. It fell in the middle of the discussion of growing within the Christian family. I was challenged with the question, <em>&#8220;What could I do to connect with another believer at a deeper heart level?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s easier to recover from failure when we have a strong family of believers to help lift us up, and keep us accountable to the decisions we made. At the time, I hungered for accountability, and to find other men with whom I could share vulnerability. Even though I was committed to serving in church, leading worship, facilitating small groups, and generally serving the congregation, I didn&#8217;t feel connected to anybody.</p>
<p>I found the purpose of some of the activities within these men&#8217;s retreats is primarily to provide a common ground where guys can bond. Talking about the activity eventually leads to talking about ourselves, and we found connection during the retreats that we didn&#8217;t have before.</p>
<p>But as U2 sang several years ago, <em>&#8220;I Still Haven&#8217;t Found What I&#8217;m Looking For&#8221;</em>—only now I&#8217;m just a little bit closer.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Tony Chung&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://tonychung.ca/2009/07/travel-planning-for-family-fun-and-finanace/" rel="nofollow">Travel planning for family fun and finanace</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://tonychung.ca/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: jay m</title>
		<link>http://tonychung.ca/2009/06/revelation-doesnt-pay-the-bills/comment-page-1/#comment-11532</link>
		<dc:creator>jay m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gone to some number of Mens retreats, Promisekeepers, etc. Easy to make resolutions, easier to forget or neglect them. Even so, the guidance and reminders help. Hopefully we can review and see improvements and growth- even if the growth is simply recognizing some of our failings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gone to some number of Mens retreats, Promisekeepers, etc. Easy to make resolutions, easier to forget or neglect them. Even so, the guidance and reminders help. Hopefully we can review and see improvements and growth- even if the growth is simply recognizing some of our failings!</p>
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